Questions about KDE, Plasma

[vannax (Mike)]

After reading this thread:

KdenLive does not launch: Failed to create wl_display

Requirements: I have Searched the forum for my issue and found nothing related or helpful I have checked the Resources category (Resources Index) I have reviewed the Wiki for relevant information I have read the the Release Notes and Errata OpenMandriva Lx version: OpenMandriva Lx release 6.0 (Vanadium) Rock for x86_64 Desktop environment (KDE, LXQT…): i3 Description of the issue (screenshots if relevant): Kdenlive does not launch. Relevant informations (hardware involved, soft…

and this in particular:

@ben79

Yep, kdenlive is a Plasma5 package and plasma6-kdenlive is the one for Plasma6. And also yes the dependencies for each would be different.

I understand this is confusing for new user and a lot of longer term users as well. But wait! In Cooker the Plasma5 packages are gone and the plasma6-something naming is being reverted to drop the plasma6. This is a big reason why we are still waiting for the next big upgrade for rolling (ROME) repositories. There are some other big changes as well.

And I will probably forget this at least 50 times…

I was struck with some questions.

1. Is it safe to assume that after the “-plasma6” naming convention is abandoned, that all Plasma5 packages will be deprecated?
2. Are there any plans/strategies for alternate default environments once KDE abandons X11 with Plasma7, as they say they are going to?

[LeeTalbert]

1. All Plasma5 packages have been removed from cooker, will be removed from Rome with the next repo sync, and will be removed from Rock with the next release.
2. Not sure if the apps will still run in an X session or not. Maybe someone will create something like xwayland to run wayland-only app under X11. We already offer xfce, lxqt, and i3, and have community members working on cinnamon and TDE.

[vannax (Mike)]

Thanks, Lee.
I’m leaning towards xfce, it seems mature, stable and has lots of options for customisation. Hopefully, by the time Rock 7 comes out, i’ll be able to use it with XLibre.
Too bad KDE is ditching x11, I like KDE.

[LeeTalbert]

TDE is a fork of KDE, but I’m not sure what their stance on X11/Wayland is.

[zeroability]

@LeeTalbert

TDE is a fork of KDE, but I’m not sure what their stance on X11/Wayland is.

https://mirror.git.trinitydesktop.org/gitea/gitea/TDE/tde-packaging/issues/303#issuecomment-71851

@vannax

Are there any plans/strategies for alternate default environments once KDE abandons X11 with Plasma7, as they say they are going to?

They tell me it’s just kwin and no new features will be added to it. Which is why they split it.