Is Open Mandriva planning on dumping Firefox?

The first statement you said is true.

Profit is evil in my own believe, so it’s better if they don’t deserve any kind of money whatsoever and buy things that are cheap and have the right to own and repair on your own. Let these corporations deserve the taste of their large fines like Google has. Think about it.

I totally agree with that. But since people like me live in poverty and are broke as hell then so be it. That’s today’s economy, so stop acting like everything is normal like it was 10 to 15 years ago, or just less idk.

I also agree, but I gotta put the high hopes up for the Ladybird, but hey, at least KHTML is still around, but what is Goanna anyway?

And I wish we had other engines that are also upcoming and independent, we need them.

Profit gained by government intervention and regulation is evil, just to clarify my belief.

People live in poverty because of their decisions primarily. If you are aware that things are unfair with respect to compensation for your work, then you are the only person that can change that. If you do not possess skills to get higher amounts of compensation, the only person that can change that is you. Asking others to do it for you, or to subsidize your lack of skills with their time and money, will always end in you being taken advantage of and all parties involved being enslaved. I’m not acting like everything is “normal” and you are misrepresenting my point of view intentionally.

A simple internet search would yield that it is a fork of the Gecko engine.

It is used by both palemoon, and the better (less geopolitically activist) fork basilisk.

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Well, my apologies for that. I couldn’t tell if you are a bourgeoise living in a normal live in France or in the US or just person who is just quite normal. Really, I stand on my own ideology, I hate rich people because of what they have caused for me and my family, or worse, the people who work and just take advantage of little kids for their own fetish ideas, I am just as paranoid as others are, I wanted to make sure I am clear with that.

Understandable.

Same page, but difference, I hate corporatocracy.

I do not subscribe to Communism or any other form of collectivism.

I admire that you stand by your convictions and care about children not being harmed, as do I. Rich people are not the issue. Rich people colluding with oligarchs are the issue. They are known as fascists. No other system has lifted more people out of poverty than Capitalism even with oligarchs picking winners and losers at the macro level. We don’t have a full free market economy. If we did, you would be free to build your own wealth and the oligarchs would stay out of your way. There would be no registering for a business license, or other requirements such as health departments, electrical permits, building permits, parking permits, and other nuisances that the oligarchs put in the way of people being successful. Wherever those things were created, there was old money that colluded with oligarchs to limit or remove competition by keeping them from getting started at all.

That’s not really a word. I think you mean corporatism. Perhaps technocracy. Either way, oligarchy is a more apt term because it is a group of old monied individuals that have nothing better to do than manipulate the people beneath them.

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Donald Trump is the real Rimuru Tempest. Hahah.

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Exactly. I know of too many people who live paycheck to paycheck, whining about how they have no resources, yet they have no skills. Some of these people are my age, which is retirement age.

Yesterday I met a young guy in his early twenties, earning a good living. What does he do? Something most people his age won’t do. Install and repair HVAC, including the installation, maintenance, and repair of boilers and related components in buildings that still use hot water or steam heating systems. There are still plenty of those around here. The old heads who maintained those boilers are retiring or have retired. This young guy who I met knows that in a few years he will have a near monopoly with maintaining those systems, as most won’t go near those boilers.

That is how you get out of poverty. Do the jobs that are in very high demand that nobody else wants to do because you will need to get dirty every day.

I find it funny how those with university degrees are in poverty while those with a high school education and a box of tools are earning six figures.

Yes, capitalism sucks for the collectivist or someone who wants an easy job that everyone else wants to do. It is all about supply and demand. On a level playing field, collectivists will always end up in poverty because of their own bad choices in life. Not because someone else forced them into poverty.

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Without profit, businesses have no reason to exist.

When it is -20 outside and your furnace breaks, nobody is going to fix it for free because there is always someone else willing to pay the repairman to prioritize that job first. The one with the broken furnace unwilling to pay ends up with no working furnace and broken water pipes.

I drove a truck over the road for over 14 years. Do you believe I would deliver anything to your location for free? Of course not. No driver would. One way or another, you are going to pay for services rendered.

I find it funny how those who scream about profit being evil are always the first in line to demand “more free stuff” stolen by big-failure government from the hardworking taxpayers. With a kickback for those inside the big-failure government, of course. If you want to say profit is evil, look at your government full of nonworkers performing no real work, yet always demanding more pay increases. While they scream: government work is so difficult and dirty.

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Yes. Without profit there is no purpose for work. We need to identify what we are against. Crony capitalism; government subsidies that tip the scales; the unholy alliance between government and business; etc. Not simple honest profit.

Profit and the ability to succeed is what drives innovation.

I ran across a rant given by a disgruntled “Mr Beast” contestant, and their ugly split. He casually said about the $100,000 he won “oh it went really fast on a music venture I tried and a couple of other projects. It didn’t last long at all.” I about fell out of my chair. This is a non ‘ignore-able’ reason many are poor; Awful terrible money handling skills. Yes they need education, yes they don’t deserve to be kicked to the curb. But to blame that on “the system and evil profit” is a woefully inept explanation of the problem.

Coming full circle. Firefox should receive no USAID subsidies. I want Google’s chokehold to decrease. Firefox will remain in the repos along with many other options for the sake of choice; and I hope Ladybird does well, remains independent, and I hope he does receive compensation for his work. Nobody can feed their family without compensation.

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While I agree, history has shown that education doesn’t work for those people. It is the old saying about how you can lead a horse to water, but you can’t force it to drink.

Now if someone handed me $100,000 free and clear, the first thing I would do is call my financial planner to discuss how I should invest it for long term, stable income. Not piss it away on some music project that has a 99% chance of failure. Not blow it in Las Vegas. Definitely not spend it on a fast, expensive car. Unless I was still renting. Then I would use it for a decent down payment on a modest house.

To be honest, I never understood “Mr. Beast.” Reminds me too much of the nonsensical prime-time television “reality” shows.

Nobody should be receiving taxpayer-stolen USAID funding. If your business requires funding stolen from the taxpayers, then start figuring out where to cut the waste. Or have a “going out of business” sale.

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That’s why an old wise historical character who they nailed to a cross said “the poor you will ALWAYS have with you.” Yep. There will always be those people, and there will always be those people until the end of time.

For real right :joy: Hurts to think about. Similar how Lottary winners statistically end up broke after they blow their winnings too.

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More broke than they were before they won. Before they won, they had enough left over every week to waste on buying all those lottery tickets. After they win and blow it all, they end up with massive credit card debt, a massive mortgage that they can no longer afford, their expensive sports car gets repossessed by the lender, and end up owing all the creditors. Then they turn around and blame the creditors along with those who saved what they earned for “being greedy” and not offering free bailouts.

Reminds me of the university graduates with worthless but useless degrees who demand the taxpayers foot the bills for their terrible choices while drinking cups of woke but severely overpriced coffee that smells like burning used motor oil.

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Most Windows and Mac users do not use the default browser. And there’s nothing wrong with Safari, it’s one of the few browsers keeping the Chromium monoculture at bay.

I wouldn’t be too sure about that. Everyone who I know uses the default browser, Microsoft Edge or Apple Safari. But then those same people get confused when they try to plug a USB-C cable into the USB-A port and believe they must use Edge or Safari because their bank or place of employment said so.

Nothing wrong with Safari, other than the users who I know use it as is, out of the box, complete with pop-up ads, malware, and who knows what else showing up in the browser. Trying to secure it for them is a lost cause because sooner than not, their bank or employer’s IT department will have them remove all of it because that is easier than trying to set an exemption for that one website.

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I have a Mac, but don’t use Safari as my default browser, mostly because the extensions suck. I do, however, have one extension installed for Safari: Wipr, for ad blocking. Not as robust as uBlock Origin, but it’s not too bad.

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