G'day from downunder

I have been growing increasingly dissatisfied with distros becoming sluggish and buggy. I have a self built desktop Ryzen 5 5600/16GB ram/NVME machine. I expect better than 4-5 second delay just to launch the files app in gnome for god sakes… After trying far too many distros I stumbled on OM. Installed the Rock 6.0 Plasma version with Ryzen compiled binaries and holy cow! This thing blows the doors off every distros I have tried in the last 5 years. Click on Dolphin boom opened in less than 1 second! Startup & shutdown very fast etc. This humble distro deserves far more attention.

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If you are from down under, shouldn’t all your text be appearing inverted? Isn’t that one of those unwritten Crocodile Dundee laws? :upside_down_face: :upside_down_face: :upside_down_face:

Welcome, and glad you found OM Rock to be a valid solution.

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As long as I eat enough vegemite sandwhichs my text stays upright lol. I am interested to hear from other community members aboit the practicality of using Rome as a daily driver. Is it stable enough for that, or requires a lot of frequent intervention?

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Welcome :waving_hand:

Fellow Rock user here…

Right now Rock is the best place to be. The devs are getting ready for another major update on the Cooker => Rome channel. So it won’t be long.

OM made a LOT of changes to Rome in the past year and some have had bigger impacts than expected from testing.

For example in this latest goaround, there is a MAJOR python upgrade. No big deal right? Except that the number of linux programs that rely on python is absolutely insane.

And that doesn’t include rust, python with a rust backend, rust with a python backend, pythoin depending on another python toolchain with a different rust backend that depends on …

I seriously miss the old MSDOS days…where we only had ASM, C, GW Basic, and Fortran. {sigh}

Anyway, if you’re new to OM (or even KDE) I would stay on Rock until after the Cooker/Rome merge. Then give it a week or so

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I have been running Rome on one old ASUS (2012) since last February. The other ASUS (2016) antique has been running Rome since April. The 2016 is my daily driver. Both went through the last major update to the repos, with the 2012 losing its ability to log into the Plasma 6 desktop environment. The 2016 went through unscathed. That was when the Plasma 5 files were removed. To this day I still don’t know what happened, but I was able to get it resolved here on the forum by uploading a few log files and then being told which commands to run to restore the desktop environment. As I recall, about half a dozen Plasma 6 files went missing. But more importantly, I had a second piece of hardware to fall back on while the other was partially down, and I lost no personal data. Once the DE files were put back where they belong, it was as if nothing had happened.

So while it is possible, how much of a glutton are you for punishment? I am retired with no wife, so I have time to mess around with two dinosaurs that refuse to die. If you want maximum stability, stay on Rock. If you want to see how long things go until something happens unexpectedly, then Rome. The choice is yours. I have no idea regarding your situation. Everything @SomeDudeInAZ says still holds true.

How could you forget FIFTH? It came after FORTH and was only used when programming at bars in Wisconsin back in the 1980s, while drinking Jaegermeister, schnapps, and Old Milwaukee mixers. The ones in the localities with one bar, no houses, and an “unincorporated” sign out by the county highway (the sign is optional). The sign faced both directions, unless the snowplow got it again. No need for a second post that way.

Exhibit A:
Downtown Frog Station

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Thank you for the feedback SDA, much appreciated!

In the three days I have been running this I continue to marvel at the responsiveness of the installed OS. I am a little concerned at the growing log entries of core dumps of applications. I have not lost any data (yet) but having a browser core dump is not trivial lol.

Is this common for Rock 6.0 zenver1?
Should I just shrug and ignore it?
Should I open a git acccount and start reporting?

I did boot the regular non zenver1 iso and found the same apps core dumping also.
Scratches head ..

BTW, I’m 67, been a Linux user since the days when we downloaded floppy images over 9600bps acoustic modems lol. My first successfully installed non MS-DOS system was Slackware 1.0 way back in '93. God I miss the fast booting responsiveness of that system. Everything since then has been a downhill slide IMHO with a brief highlight of Ubuntu appearing and giving the other distro’s a big push along in usabliliity and hardware support.

/rant I’m not going to bore people throwing around political buzz words but I have a growing sense of unease at Linux being derailed by giant US corporations. Given the instability of the current US regime I think relying on IBM/Redhat developed technologies is a mistake. I applaud distro’s developing non proprietary alternatives to systemd and Gnome (with it’s hard dependency on systemd), abandoning the working x.org for the still unready wayland etc etc. /endrant

Based on your ‘rant’ I think you’ll fit in here… :wink:

And I think you’ll notice that many of us are of a similar ‘vintage’ :wine_glass:

That aside, I think the fastest response I’ve seen on modern systems is when I load a linux virtual machine and the entire VM is sitting on my ramdrive (yes, I use a ramdrive :smiling_face_with_horns: )

Used to do that with MSDOS too back in the day. Ah, the amazing things you could do with 1MB of ram…

Now for your issues. I was getting a lot of those too when I started. Then they just stopped :man_shrugging: . My guess is they were all KDE related, and as I got KDE configured I solved whatever the issue was.

This was back in Sept. You can see my posts from back then.

Since then any time I’ve had problems I keep discovering that something like 75% of the time it’s KDE. Apparently Plasma 6 broke a bunch of stuff

And when I was googling around I would keep finding that the problems were all being talked about over on the KDE Forums. Because more often than not the problems went back like 10 years. and were never really fixed, just 'shimmed". P6 broke the shims.

None of this helps solve your problems though. Should you create a GH account for issues? Yes.

But the first place to post about it is here in the forum under support. Only if we strike out here should we report it on GH - unless it’s obvious like missing dependencies or something like that.

Just open a new support thread for each issue. Makes searching the forums easier.

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Man, I’m just a script kiddie compared to you (please excuse my poor English).

I started with Slackware 9, then abandoned Linux for a long time.

I’ve had a few longer Linux episodes since then. I’ve always liked Linux systems in general. I settled for good when Debian 7 or 8 came out; I was increasingly annoyed with Windows. When I first saw Windows 10, I was completely put off. That was the last straw for me. Since then, I have become increasingly frustrated with Linux for the reasons you already mentioned. I think this is one of the last sane distributions with a sane community around it. Comunity that is concern primarly about creating good distro not about labels and stuff.

Lots of Us just are fatigue with political and any type of strange let say modern “sociological “ bull shit for the lack of better siutted terms in my vocabullary .
Again sorry for the quality of my english or lack of it.

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Hi, Welcome. I use Rome, my pc had integrated intel video card and Nvidia GPU. There was some problem whith GPU for known facts, (see the forum etc). For my hobby and office use, the rolling realise is fine. Is good even the connection with android phone, KDE Connect. The mirroring is goog with android tv. Mirroring with wifi using crome. The community support is good. I’m trying local AI with LLM associated with text editor too. I’m new to local AI but I have some good result. When I will time, I will optimized the use of the video card for higher performance. For now working progress. Bye.

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G’day back at you!

I’m from Adelaide.

This is the only distro I’d consider anymore. The developers aren’t caught up in socio-political BS and I love that there is no upstream. All other neutral/rebellious distros are still relying on bigger corporate or woke distros.

In saying that, I’ve already largely moved to OpenBSD. End of the day, OM is still Linux, so will have to use the Linux kernel. I really don’t like or trust the whole Rust push (or Linus anymore).

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G’day Mick,
I’m currently enduring summer up in Brisbane.

I am of the of the same opinion as you. In the '90s I retreated from Micro$oft to Linux. In the same way I am now gently retreating from IBM/Redhat toward BSD.

Openmandriva is an interesting distro for uses where BSD is not yet viable. Seems like a good community here and nice to be closer to a small development team with passion.

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