This is my current sentiment as well. I would have liked to see if Xlibre has improved multi-monitor functions, but I think using Cooker in Virtual Box wouldn’t give any good testing of the monitor connections.
No problem, I’ll have to wait.
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Looks like a prominent dev at Alpine Linux has threatened folk who suggest merging XLibre into the distro with CoC violations, a guy called Ariadne Conill. Lunduke has the details.
https://rumble.com/v6vhhw5-alpine-linux-says-no-xlibre-for-political-reasons.html?e9s=src_v1_ucp_a
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Same thing with ChimeraOS. It hasn’t even been a month and XLibre has already served as a really good litmus test.
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To be honest, my litmus test is based on stability and functionality before politics.
That being said, I’d say that the Wayland fanboys and those who express outright hostility towards a given SW package for any other reason than stability and/or functionality are full of it, and when an outfit has “political officers” to enforce some kind of political agenda is the kiss of death.
That being said, there is a big difference between saying “keep yer politics outta the chat”, and actually being political.
Myself, I lean libertarian, I don’t care what another human may think or believe, but I do care when they start throwing their weight around.
“Your freedom to swing your fists about ends at the tip of my nose.”
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If YouTube decides that somebody’s little feelings were hurt and takes it down:
Lunduke going over ChimeraOS over on Rumble
Which is something YouTube has a long history of doing. It doesn’t take much. 
Why do I suspect these programmers spend 99% of their day finding new and improved ways to be even more woke than the next wokester? That has to be quite a bit of time-consuming work every day. 
Just like the university-uneducated truck drivers with those fancy 8 year degrees, but unable to get jobs in their field of study. That was back in 2016. They would spend 10 hours of every day complaining about how the old drivers like myself made them look bad because the old drivers would put in a 14-hour day if required. Then those same young truck drivers complained that they were being discriminated against because they were always last when the load assignments were being sent out. Followed by complaining about a lack of a large paycheck. Now add in the complaining because they didn’t have enough time in the day to play video games or the Internet service at the truck stop was too slow for those games. 
I wonder if they are still complaining?
As I recall, all that was my fault, because of course it must be my fault. I made them look bad because I completed work assignments on time and if I didn’t, I had a good reason (the 8x recapped tire with dry rot has departed the trailer).
I predict that when the current code of conduct at ChimeraOS blows up in their collective faces, it will be declared to be Lunduke’s fault, along with anyone who believes as such. It won’t be the fault of anyone at ChimeraOS. Such personal responsibility for one’s own actions is impossible.
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ChimeraOS and Chimera Linux are two totally different things.
You are correct. My mistake. I should have posted Chimera Linux, not ChimeraOS.
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What are your thoughts on this “wayback” compatibility layer by Alpine Linux?
To me it seems to be an admission by Alpine Linux that Wayland has important missing features and that Xorg is being murdered. Given the choice between the dead body of Xorg and non-woke Xlibre they (Ariadne Conill) have decided that the best thing to do was start up a project claiming to be able to do away with the need for an X11 server. Of course the first commit was the CoC. And from what I can see the Xlibre people are adults and aren’t returning the favor and spamming the project with fake issues and PRs.
Our lovely Linux tech “journalists” seem to be in a rush to sing to praises of a project that is days old, one source code file, less than a thousand lines of code, and won’t be ready for 1-1.5 years at best. These are the same chaps that said we can’t get too excited about Xlibre till we see sustained development work from multiple developers. It’s like when the mainstream news grudgingly reports on something that runs counter to their narrative then quickly returns to the narrative with whatever is quickly at hand.
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I would say its a tacit admission of the failure of Wayland, where, instead of even attempting to make Wayland, you know, actually work, they’re just gonna graft a “compatibility layer” into their distro and call it a “victory.”
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I’m always happy to see new projects it’s great that we’re getting new X11 implementations, not everything need to be a war so I hope her project succeed
quite funny that she decided to start this project as soon as she heard about xlibre, would be really funny if both decide to add HDR one day and we end up with two competing standards for HDR on x11 cause Adriadne doesn’t want to talk to metux
I don’t think it’s an admission of wayland’s failure, wayback is at its core a wayland compositor after all, if anything it shows a will to get away from the old xorg xserver and allow even people who wanna stay on their x11 desktop environments to get away from xserver
My post was not meant to denigrate the wayback project or anyone working on it. Its existence seemed to me to be an admission (intentional or not) about some of the shortcomings of Wayland that certain people have denied vehemently.
I was also disgusted by the dual standards of the tech journalists when it comes to Wayland and X11 related projects. They can’t recommend using Xlibre because it is too new and is the project of one person (according to them), but trip over themselves to gush about wayback when it is ~99% the work of one person (according to git blame).
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I will happily denigrate Ariadne Conill, as he threatened anyone who suggested incorporating XLibre into Alpine with CoC violations, ie banning them. By his own admission, he is a toxic authoritarian, taking the role of political officer as well as his role as a dev, and anyone who puts any political ideology ahead of merit is worthy of denigration.
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Looks like the usual suspects are at it again:
xLibre GitHub Wiki page defaced.
Lunduke has the details:
Warning: Its pretty brutal.
One of the vandals is the same GNOME devs who wrote “On X11 and fascist maggots” article at the GNOME blog, the real baddie works for Canonical.
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They’re pretty much telegraphing that XLibre is a legitimate threat. If they truly believed that the project would never take off, then they would’ve just left it alone to die.
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I think this is more an issue of immaturity. Even though they abandoned their toy they can’t stand the idea of another kid playing with it so they do their best to break it and ruin any future fun. I think they truly see X11 as obselete, and don’t want anyone trying to improve what they have already deemed to be garbage.
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That’s just the indulgences they grant as a reward for their fealty to the church of communism.
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No question about their ability to be immature. It seems there are more and more adults acting like toddlers whenever they fail to get what they demand. Not just in software, but all over.
The last few years when I was working, if I wanted to keep my job, I was told by the unqualified by “highly educated” management that I had to coddle the immature working in the warehouses. They were almost always the warehouse managers. Twice, security guards. Never the forklift drivers and pallet jack operators, those who performed the actual work.
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Interesting that both vandals target Debian, specifically.
Debian is being targeted, for obvious reasons, being the base upon which so many other distros are built.
OML flies under their radar, and is one of the few truly community lead and based distros left.
I think that instead of taking sponsorships or otherwise becoming beholden to powers outside of the community, some kind of method of financially supporting the devs and other folk who volunteer their time should be made available.
Maybe a page with PayPal and/or crypto links for each dev, or whatever, all subject to intense gatekeeping community scrutiny.
We live in…interesting times. It behooves us to govern ourselves accordingly.
My idea for that is to have repos charge a usage fee in crypto mining. For each package your package manager downloads your system has to mine a small tiny sliver of some alt coin or even a micro piece of the distros own solo bitcoin pool.
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That’s a very interesting idea. There would have to be a fair bit of transparency, an opt-out choice, etc, but I think it could be made to work.