Volunteering For Testing

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Clicking on the encircled upward-pointing arrow icon that appears in the task manager bar at the bottom of the screen.

(Ben Bullard) #42

That is called Discover. I don’t use that except to test it and I do not recommend it. Instead open Konsole and run:

$ sudo dnf --refresh upgrade

It will ask you for root password but this is much simpler than any GUI to me. Plus if there is any issue you have output you can show other people.

For a brief “How To” on using dnf for package management see this.



I would have thought that the aim of the latest GUI version would be to simplify the process, but I’ve never had successful results with the previous Discover implementations either.

I’ll try the CLI method you suggested.



Ok, the upgrade is humming along…


Much better…

A major complaint I have with Discover is there was inadequate (as in none) feedback regarding the progress of the upgrade.

This is much better.



OK, here is some output:

Total 2.6 MB/s | 680 MB 04:21
warning: /var/cache/dnf/cooker-x86_64-7333483a21d6139e/packages/lib64mad0-0.15.1b-29-omv4000.x86_64.rpm: Header V4 RSA/SHA512 Signature, key ID bf81de15: NOKEY
OpenMandriva Cooker - x86_64 3.0 MB/s | 3.1 kB 00:00
Importing GPG key 0xBF81DE15:
Userid : “OpenMandriva Association om-cooker@ml.openmandriva.org
Fingerprint: 88D1 9FB4 68BA 8F3F DA4F 5E8C 1809 22D8 BF81 DE15
Is this ok [y/N]:


(Ben Bullard) #47

Not an error. That is dnf asking you to accept the GPG key. If you want to use OpenMandriva Cooker repos you select yes. As far as I know this only happens one time and afterwards dnf will update without asking. That has been what I’ve seen.

So if Discover put up a message about this it would have or certainly should have had a [y/N] in the window also. Only way I have to reproduce is to do a fresh install in VBox. Which I will do when I get time.

(Ben Bullard) #48

Yes, in that respect I would say Mandriva’s/OMA’s mkd-applet/mdk-online was better at showing windows with information and [y/N] questions for user.

(Ben Bullard) #49

I did just update a hardware and a VBox system each with Discover and everything I saw looked normal and update worked. As far as I can see there is not a problem with Discover.
Except that I do need to see how it is handling that GPG acceptance question. That is an unknown at this point.



After the updates completed, I tried to open Dolphin.

Here is the message I received:

Unable to create io-slave. klauncher said: Error loading ‘/usr/lib64/qt5/plugins/kf5/kio/file.so’.

Dolphin was working before the updates were run.




Is there a convenient way to save the output of the console from the update process for subsequent examination?

I was thinking of re-installing 4.0 Alpha1 from a blank disk and running that console command you suggested in such a way that I could save the complete original console screen log output to a file to determine what the information was that disappeared in the console screen prior to the Dolphin failure.

Any suggestions as to any preferred way to go about obtaining that console update message log after completion of the update script?


(Ben Bullard) #52

Copy and paste the output to a file.

To not miss any output you need to set and new Konsole profile in Konsole>Settings>Manage Profiles and set that new profile as the default. Then close Konsole and reopen it. Now go to Konsole>Edit Current Profile>Scrolling and set it to ‘Unlimited scrollback’.

(Ben Bullard) #53

When you see that rebooting usually corrects it. Post-edit: Rebooting is just restarting whatever service makes such files available.


Well, that would certainly be a welcome simple fix.

Here goes…

(Ben Bullard) #55

Uh, oh, guess that did not work. Huh @deltakprime?


Actually, it did… but I’ve discovered another glitch:

Apparently, Gwenview will initially allow me to view about a dozen or so (exact number to be verified later) photos from my phone, but once that number is reached, no further photos can be opened individually, although I can see the entire collection in browse mode.

And I can still continue to open any of the individual photos that I had already opened prior to reaching the limit.

I will retrieve and send the exact error message later on.


Here is the error message:

Loading ‘f778d38098862a4cff3131ae6699ee59.jpg’ failed
Loading meta information failed.

Interestingly, the “<” and “>” keys function in Gwenview individual mode if the target directory is on a hard disk, but they don’t on the phone

(Ben Bullard) #58

Bug report with as much detail as you can provide including omv-bug-report.log.xz.


Will do.



Sorry about the lapse in activity/communications; I’ve been extremely busy with other work.

I did get the notice yesterday announcing the release of Lx 4.0 Beta, so I proceeded to download the file from SourceForge.

(By some fortunate coincidence, my installed Lx 4.0 Alpha version failed during the download of the Beta file…

…ever run out of gas as you pull up to the pump? :smile:)

Anyway, Beta downloaded & written to thumb drive via Rosa, loaded live version = OK, installed from Beta live version via the install option = OK (using it now to write this.)


Discover shows a mere 1,315 update files totaling approximately 1.1GB waiting, if prior experience is any indication, to mercilessly mutilate my installation. (Presumably without update progress status indicators, of course!)

(“The optimist asked for a taste of the pessimist’s wine…” - from Hallowed Be Thy Name by Emerson Lake & Palmer, lyrics by Peter Sinfield https://youtu.be/q8cjlvI6wIY)

Last time I attempted the Alpha version update, you suggested I use this command in Konsole, which I did:

$ sudo dnf --refresh upgrade

The resulting screen output was so large a file that apparently it exceeded some size limit; I was unable afterward to scroll the screen display up to the beginning of the file, as it had been overwritten, at least as far as the display screen was able to show.

This time I want to direct the output to be simultaneously displayed on the screen as well as written to a file, and as much fun as this purports to be ("Masochist: “Beat me.”… Sadist: “No.”), I only want to do it once, if at all possible.

I have found a potential solution in the CLI “tee” command; however, there appears to be some discussion about the intricacies of how the resulting combination of stdout and stderr will be chronologically displayed, with several complex options suggested.

I don’t know how familiar you are with this command, or to what extent it may make any difference, but if so:

Since I want to obtain full, accurate, detailed (and especially useful!) information regarding the progress of this update process, what command string(s) would you consider the optimally preferred choice for debugging purposes?

I appreciate your assistance with this, Ben, and I respect your opinion.

I really do want to obtain and address every last bit of relevant information so this upcoming release will be stable and optimized.

I know it’s only in Beta now, and I don’t mind tracing and correcting every fault detail, but I don’t want to do this incompletely and leave any stone unturned.

What do you think about the issue of stdout and stderr entries appearing out of chronological sequence in the output file?

Is this a concern?

Do you advise combining them into a single file?

Any other thoughts and/or suggestions?

Your thoughts would be greatly appreciated.

I’m eager to dive into this… this version so far looks really good!

Thanks, Ben


Michael Orlando