Translation tool

[rugyada]

Continua la discussione da Candidate ISO build 1082:

@raphael

I thought we could migrate to Zanata (If I remember the name correctly of the open source alternative, hosted and maintained by RH)

@jclvanier

Yeap. It seems very interesting. Of at least two things are strictly needed (imo):
– a real structured team
– a way to add the translated texts to the isos in coordination with cooker.

Urgent.
We need a translation tool.

Zanata ?

[raphael (Raphaël)]

Just to let people informed: we are trying Zanata now. It really seems to do the job.

[jclvanier]

Om-control-center is the only doc to translate right now. Correct?
Is it up to date?
One thing we should verify beside the translation, is the good quality of the original text. There are often essentially typos and missing words.

[ben79 (Ben Bullard)]

To my understanding there are a number of things with om-control-center that need fixing. Is is still an experimental package and is not ready to supplant drakconf.

[mandian]

@jclvanier

Om-control-center is the only doc to translate right now. Correct?

oma-welcome is not fully translated is some languages too.

@jclvanier

One thing we should verify beside the translation, is the good quality of the original text. There are often essentially typos and missing words.

Community may help in this, I hope. Eventually we may make a call for translator at localized section of the forum and at English section for other languages.

[rugyada]

UP

Issues · OpenMandrivaAssociation/distribution · GitHub

@scootergrisen

Transifex.com says:
This organization has too many words and has been temporarily disabled. To resume using Transifex, please have an organization administrator upgrade to another plan.

[raphael (Raphaël)]

This is due to the handbook which has no sources (then no open source) maybe we should ditch it to get back our open source plan?

[rugyada]

Yes.
And use Zanata.

[rugyada]

@raphael

This is due to the handbook which has no sources (then no open source) maybe we should ditch it to get back our open source plan?

Please remove obsolete troubleshooting stuff.
We have the oma welcome up-to-date .po file(s) finally so I’d like to get the traslations fixed as soon as possible-if possible.

Thanks

[raphael (Raphaël)]

I’d like we use zanata, because it’s opensource, but contrary to Transifex, there is no organzation management, only single projects… wdyt keep transifex or move to Zanata?

[rugyada]

I’d like to use Zanata too, but I’m absolutely not an expert.
We may want to consider pros and cons. Into the pro-transifex I found that translators already have an account there (so no yet another account needed) - but how many of them are still available?
Apart from “technical” details, as said I’m not expert at all, this is the only point from a pragmatic POV that I can think of in favour of transifex.

Postedit:
wdyt, we try with uploading to Zanata oma welcome po file and see what happens?

[mandian]

@rugyada

We have the oma welcome up-to-date .po file(s) finally so I’d like to get the traslations fixed as soon as possible-if possible.

Meanwhile you may make a pull request directly to the github repo .

[rugyada]

@mandian

Meanwhile you may make a pull request directly to the github repo

Naaaaah!

[raphael (Raphaël)]

@rugyada

wdyt, we try with uploading to Zanata oma welcome po file and see what happens?

Fine with me!

About oma handbook, i tried (but failed) to download resources using transifex CLI.

I’d like to save the English language source because it seems a good base for an official documentation. Content is very outdated, but structure is very interesting.

I’ll download the 45 resources one by one tomorrow and then delete the project.

[rugyada]

@raphael

About oma handbook, i tried (but failed) to download resources using transifex CLI.
I’d like to save the English language source because it seems a good base for an official documentation.

I had no doubt that you would have think of this. In fact did not suggested, I knew already

[rugyada]

It seems we have a new problem.
We have the .po file(s) [1], but not a .pot

Source is from here
as suggested by Colin

<itchka> try this
<itchka> https://github.com/OpenMandrivaSoftware/oma-welcome/archive/master.zip

@bero @Colin any help ?

[1] I think only English should be needed as main source for translations

[raphael (Raphaël)]

.pot is not hard to do from po file, iirc, as it a generic structure: if I’m correct you take a .po, then remove the translated text (on the right of each line) and rename as pot.

[jclvanier]

Apparently, you can directly rename en.po as en.pot as it contains no translation.
At least, poedit doesn’t complain with this kind of manipulation

EDIT: you can also open en.po with poedit and save it as en.pot (suppress the second translation: “Hi”).

[rugyada]

Thank you both.

@jclvanier

you can also open en.po with poedit and save it as en.pot (suppress the second translation: “Hi”).

This is what I did
Got the pot file and uploaded.

As I am a bit dummy, I chose “Upload new source document” and so we don’t have any oma-welcome main container like it is for om-control-center

Any chance that you can fix this issue?
Sorry for that, practice will make me perfect

For testing, I started to translate some strings into Italian. Just to see how it works.
We already have some po files available. They are not up to date with latest changes of course but surely may help for not double the work already done.

[raphael (Raphaël)]

@raphael

About oma handbook, i tried (but failed) to download resources using transifex CLI.

I’d like to save the English language source because it seems a good base for an official documentation. Content is very outdated, but structure is very interesting.

I’ll download the 45 resources one by one tomorrow and then delete the project.

Done I have also removed the project.