Question about graphical kernel manager [RFC]

Hello,

do you think adding a graphical kernel manager to OM (like this) would be a good idea and viable?

This would allow users to choose if they want to be on the latest kernel, or stay on an LTS branch. Or switch to a gaming kernel like liquorix, xanmod, zen, TKG or kernel with Bore scheduler (i dont know if bore have better performance in game than OM default kernel).

Devs, do you see any advantage in changing kernel versions in terms of work time/performance gains?

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for that to happen someone would need to compile all those kernels and the modules associated with them for… minimal or zero “real” benefits :laughing:

However I could see the benefit of having an additional LTS kernel (just like Arch does) for the cases where the always-new kernel doesn’t play nice with older hardware (or is buggy). The “stable” Linux kernel moves just too fast to be 100% reliable. This would also give OMLx ROME a huge advantage over Fedora for example.

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Should this topic move to Feature request?

@rugyada As you wish, I initially turned this topic into a form of discussion so that the community could consider the relevance of the thing. If many people, like omvfan, find it useful (especially for the LTS kernel), you can put it in the feature request section

Personally, i like the idea.

Moved and added tag Request for Comment :wink:
Feel free to discuss there.

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this list of kernels install come from manjaro ( based on archlinux ) since 2012 ?( or 2013 ? ) .
this requireds many things to get all kernels “working” , because

  • all headers are not the same for each version
  • all firmware coming from kernels may differs
  • grub or any boot linux required to give a different name + required a number version
  • alls modules are build on the sames libs/modules ( maybe version differs by kernels )

and you will add :

  • version mesa
  • version nvidia for all kernels , also hybrid video for intel , amd and nvidia
  • version gstreamers and pipewire
  • version systemd may also differs , as some options on boot

and maybe for each version you will have to keep few patch in order to remove few errors

  • and more testings iso

that required for your RFC

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This would allow users to choose if they want to be on the latest kernel, or stay on an LTS branch. Or switch to a gaming kernel like liquorix, xanmod, zen, TKG or kernel
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Oh no mate no. Im not a OM dev Im just a guy. But … I understand one thing… doing those things consume manpower, time and resourcess to echieve literally nothing.

Most people that are unable to update /change their kernel via comandline, are olso unable to revert changes in case of faliture after kernel change / update.

So If one is in need of gui (toy type interface) to perform kernel change then he or she need same interface to revert it back incase of faliture. So we will have tone posts like this. I changed kerne, my system drops to black window what should i do now… Help!!
If one cant handle kernel change linux way then one sould not touch kernel at all.
You Need people to create kernel changer gui. You need even more people to handle with posts of cluless users. It is pointless.

98% of people changes kernel because highier version number not because they need new funcionalities that are missing in their current kernel.

Try to read thru post on forums of diffrent distrosthat have this funcionality, You will see what im talking about

PS.Ubuntu is a old swahili word which means I cant install and setup debian, garuda is exactly the same but in terms of arch

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I’m sitting here thinking and I have no argument for anything he just said.

@WilsonPhillips So I nailed it or im just talking out of my ass :wink:

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If user just wants to keep a given kernel version there is a way to do so.
As for build own kernel, here I have no knowledge.

So long as the kernel and headers are packaged in the repos, it is just a matter of grub-mkconfig, update-grub, and grub-install normally to have different kernel options at boot.

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exactly

By default 3 kernel versions are kept for boot.

Right, that is the same way it would work for adding in new kernels. If we had the zen kernel or LTS kernel those entries would be in that list after running mkconfig, update, and install for grub.

I’m fairly certain the OP here is just asking about a GUI for viewing and adding the various kernels that are already packaged in our repos.