Openmandriva impossible to install on rtx 3060

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I’m not here to talk down to anybody or something.
I’m just stating the fact, Open mandriva 6 with rtx 3060 is a big no go.

I have issues with my main OM setup, so I decided to install it on a secondary disk to see if clean install will help. I would have try to resolve some minor issues in a process (if I could start an installer of any sort). Maybe It would help me and someone else with a similar set of issues.

I can boot iso and that’s about it. I can see boot screen with the nice flowers and setup options, so some very, very basic video rendering works. But after that point, no matter which option I choose I end up with black screen. The only indication that my monitors works is a blue blight on the monitor frame, which turns yellow if a monitor goes into a sleep mode.

One and only thing that can be start and works is a cli mode - clean console.

At that point I probably should read how to set up open mandriva server in a cli mode in hope that same way of installation is available on regular desktop version of a distro

Im not here to talk shit or anything. I merely state a simple fact, open mandriva cannot be install on nvidias that aren’t ancient.

I have a really old nvidia laptop where the installation is as follows: not straight forward but also not very difficult. But most importantly it is possible and after installation it works crazy good.

If you have RTX 3060 installation is impossible. If you installed OM6 using different gpu (radeon), yes you can manage to install nvidia drivers yet working with (not ancient) nvidia is to said it mildly difficult and not stable experience.

The NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060 12GB was released on February 25, 2021 so it is not so new but no ancient either.

I will try to find a way to work around this work thru the os installation will be my first step
Then working around gui glitches and other issues on hopefully working system.

I got 3 suspects

  1. Nvidia drivers are not great
  2. Working with dual monitors is the issue because … see point 1
  3. Exact subversion of kde 6 that is shipped with Om 6 may be the issue here. I will try to test different desktops
  4. All above may be true

Shit I see no manual on how to start installer in cli mode desktop nor server

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I would like to reiterate something important that is not quite being understood by many.

We do not “support” packages from the non-free repository. No distro does in their equivalent repositories. This is because the source is proprietary. Every single distro makes their best effort to offer it as a convenience for the majority of people that would use it. This means, someone with a known compatible PC using it in a predictable manner. The more peripherals and requirements added to this scenario, the greater the likelihood of bugs and issues.

Since we cannot fix bugs related to software in the non-free repo, we can only make our best effort to provide the latest version of the software to go with the latest versions of the FOSS software we package that may talk to it (i.e. the kernel).

Now I’d like to explain things so we can start approaching some realistic expectations.

nvidia drivers are broken on every release. They regularly need to be patched for them to work both themselves, and with newer kernel releases. You can see what that looks like here:

Other distros that “just work,” actually do not. They spend money on people internally and hardware to test their packages on and deliver to the user absolutely every single configuration imaginable to cover every single hardware scenario imaginable which ends up bloating the system. We don’t have the resources nor the desire to provide that to pretend to support software we cannot modify the source code for.

Drivers older than 5xx will not be supported on kernel 6.x.x, and the open driver will not be backported to cards older than GTX 16xx. This means we also cannot offer any of the legacy drivers for cards. nvidia wants the open driver to be used as the default, but the userland is still proprietary. Until it is opened, every distro will have to work around that limitation. The ones getting most of the money will probably succeed, and will probably do so by packaging older versions of the driver while testing the newer versions away from most users.

So, for us it’s a catch-22. Offer a driver that works but lacks features, or offer the newest to go along with the newest kernels. Given all of the conditions I just mentioned, we have a very high success rate for average use scenarios (i.e. store bought or boutique desktop PC with a physical VGA adapter, or a notebook with non-hybrid setup). The other challenge is that people show up wanting it to work, but don’t want to help us get it working by submitting their hardware and issue to nvidia and bringing us the feedback they get from nvidia. Granted, they are slow to respond, if at all. Our hands are tied in this situation.

The last thing I can suggest for people that have tried everything else, is to download their driver binary from the website and see if the results are any better installing that. We will still suggest you contact nvidia when you have issues, but that will at least rule out for you (and them) if there is any contributing factors from our packaging or not.

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Hi @zeroability I definitely didn’t want to sound hostile. Yup, nvidia is not linux friendly. Nevr was newer will be Most likely i will return back this card and swich back to radeon. With nvidia my distro choosing pool is narrow extremely narrow. On top of that, I really enjoy to use open mandriva.

If some card blocks that ability, then fuck the card. This shit block me on installer level Im not mad with om Im mad with fucking NVIDIA… Only distro that works with this shit smoothly is mint. And if if i have to use mint i rather change card or use windows. So I will change card back to radeon

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No one thought you were. I was just clarifying because there is some confusion.

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Huh-oh! My main PC has a 3060 card with 3 monitors.

I guess I may have to buy another card as well. If I had known I was going to switch to Linux, I would have bought an AMD card.

I keep hitting a lot of stumbling blocks on this journey lol.

No wonder so many people give up and go back to Windows. However, I have already made the decision and will not be deterred!

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As I said, all of the distros have these issues:

https://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?t=402603

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Yeah I have seen that around the water cooler. That’s why I’m willing to buy a new card instead of jumping to a new distro.

It’s actually a big problem for Linux because the 3060 is a card they sold lot of and is still in heavy use because it still works fine. How many people are going to be willing to buy multi-hundred dollar hardware to satisfy an operating system.

It’s a good excuse to buy a new card is the best way to look at it. I have no brand loyalty to Nvidia, I have used both and have noticed very little difference from a user point of view.

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I’m so fucking done with nvidia at this pint. RTX is a nightmare on openSUSE, which allegedly supports it 100%. Bulshit!!! @zeroability Is right not 100% but 1000%

Here is the thing, I make a lot of videos and RTX is awesome in rendering them with extraordinary quality. But it is gravelly problematic even on distros that support it.

Dear @zeroability or @bero or anybody who have extensive knowledge about video cards in focus on open mandriva.

How about RX 7600 XT Gaming OC 16GB.On open mandriva. Is it well support by current kernels I’m a small, Polish Yutuber focused on linux In General. Video quality is my top priority. I also directly support OM from my YT income, 1/3 of every YT money transfer I receive goes to you guys.

So if anyone know the answer about RX 7600 XT Gaming OC 16GB behavior please respond

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Drivers for the RX 7600 XT were merged into kernel 6.3, and have had plenty of improvements since then. It works flawlessly on my friend’s ROME installation.

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Rock6.0 is on kernel 6.14 so it will work perfectly there as well.

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I also have issues with my RTX 3060 (on a laptop though).

I was only able to install the Wayland version (Rock or Rome), the x11 wouldn’t boot the live session. After the installation, OM Welcome wouldn’t open, only after the manual installation of NVIDIA drivers, but then the session becomes incredibly laggy. Installed x11 from terminal and it runs stable. XFCE x11 also seems pretty stable but I don’t like it.

I’d been distro hopping to find the best experience out of the box. Although some seems to work almost perfectly even on wayland, especially the gamer ones, I understood the concept of this:

That’s why I’m sticking to OM. It’s been several weeks already and I really like the distro and the community. This even makes me want to learn how to contribute.

I’m also done with NVIDIA. I’ll make sure my next laptop or desktop build is full AMD.

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Thank you so so much @LeeTalbert I will return that discussing nvidia and switch to this exact radon.

Thank you

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While you still have an nvidia laptop you should search the forums. plenty of discussion on how to use hybrid graphics laptops with nvidia.

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