Open mandriva impressions and few others topics that don't fit / belong anywhere else

That’s my fifth day on open mandriva, so far so good.
Im on stable (ROCK). I have no need for any kind of rolling release distro.

As far as my understanding of the subject go OM Rome is more similar to debian testing then debian sid or arch linux. So it is kinda rolling. Anyway it does not matter I need stable and I got on on rock

The biggest issue I had with the distro was hilariously and surprisingly … KDE. That was a user problem, not a distro problem. I needed few days to adjust. Now it is all just great.

Biggest issue that I heard of that other people had with OM is
The stable release system schedule is not fix. The system will be released when ready.
So everybody use rolling nobody cares about stable. Never heard more BS in just 3 sentences
How that (The system will be released when ready.) can be an issue for some. I do not have clue.
This is an advantage, not a disadvantage. I do not want to use half baked unpredictable system just because someone forced release against some schedule

The second complaint people have. Its horible on dell vostro and system does not have working bbswitch.
1.del vostro in general is abomination not a laptop. If you have ever disassemble that you know.
2. bbswich nvidia and linux. Nvidia do not have the best linux support in general.

So my question is who the F. buy the most prone to defect laptop with most widows friendly / linux unfriendly parts inside and stick a a linux on top of that???

Third problem people have gui administrative tools can sometimes break OM
Really??? So they do at any other linux distro . Lean the basics of the system you use regardless of its brand or orign.

For instance, Im a Slackware debian guy. DNF is weird to the point of being unpleasant to use.
Yet I in a process of learning it and other rpm redhat-ish rpm tools. Because im using rpm distro with a dnf as its default package menager. It is that simple.
Why? Because when it boils down to administrative tasks proper tools should be used. Period!
It is that simple

I can’t speak for people with different setups and PC configurations, but on mine everything works great.

My spec below it is noting fancy except a lot of storage and ram

OS: OpenMandriva Lx iodine 5.0 x86_64
    Host: B450M-HDV R4.0 (Asrock)
    Kernel: 6.6.2-desktop-1omv2390
    Display (SMS27A350H): 1920x1080 @ 60Hz
    CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 5600G (12) @ 4,46 GHz
    GPU 1: AMD Radeon Vega Series / Radeon Vega Mobile Series
    GPU 2: AMD Radeon RX 6600
    Memory: RAM: total: 64 GiB available: 62.19 GiB
Network: 
    Device-1: Intel Wireless-AC 9260 driver: iwlwifi v: kernel pcie:
    Device-2: Realtek RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet
Drives:
  Local Storage: total: 4.59 TiB used: 301.58 GiB (6.4%)
  ID-1: /dev/nvme0n1 vendor: A-Data model: SX8200PNP size: 1.86 TiB
  ID-2: /dev/sda vendor: PNY model: CS900 1TB SSD size: 931.51 GiB
  ID-3: /dev/sdb vendor: Western Digital model: WD2003FZEX-00SRLA0
    size: 1.82 TiB speed: 6.0 Gb/s serial: WD-WMC6N0H5D5K6

Keyboard wireless logitech
Printer HP InkTank 315
Webcam Rebel (Polish brand made in china) ID 1c4f:0048 SiGma Micro chipset
Microphone Mozos MKIT-700PRO V2 (Polish brand made in china) ID 0c76:2018 JMTek, LLC
Some Chinese yet great video-grabber with allegedly MS2131 cipset inside

Most extensively used software
OBS
Shotcut
Steam
KDE Kamaso

Everything works smoothly 100% hardware and software

Also banks in Poland are scam I will make a donation by Paypal, stripe or whatever but not by bank transfer.

For instance if i want to send 100pln which is approximately 24 euro
both sides of a transaction pays 25 pln fee for the transfer. So overall fee is 50 pln which gives around 12 euro . And that. a half of a money i want o send Crazy!
Fine I can pay a fine for a bank transfer but why as (OM project) would you pay also.
I want to send you a money not generate more cost for you.

Excuse my french but fuck the fucking banking system of Poland I will donate using other channels then bank transfer.
Time to open stripe account for me or something.
Im mad with a banking system really.

If paypal fails me and stripe fails me (which is unlikely but possible) I will put a money to f*ing envelope and send it on @bero company business address.
Yup Im mad!

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@grafi Thanks for sharing your impressions.

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Ok.

I’m a long time Mandrake, Mandriva Mageia user (tester for the latter) so OpenMandriva has escaped my attention.
Now for another reason, I am drawn to have OpenMandriva on a test system. And to my amazement, I find the whole Control Center has been dropped. OK, one can agree/disagree on using drakrpm vs. dnfdragora, but now a whole set of configuration tools are simply down the drain and have not been replaced as far as I can see after using a few days. I refer to services, users and groups, nfs-server and client, firewall e.a.
That is a hughe disappointment.

@hviaene I assume you did not look at all at OM-Welcome.

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@rugyada I had to find that on my own, because I had accidentally downloaded a previous ISO. It would be nice to add “We’ve moved the Control Center here, so come back to it when needed!”

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OM-Welcome, the new Startup and Configuration tool for OpenMandriva Lx is now a merge of modules from the historical brand-name applications oma-welcome and om-control-center features.
It aims to be a convenient centralized all-in-one starting point both to configure the system and to install software.

PS>
The Control Center, as intended in mandriva (mcc), we have dropped it since ages.
Of course people coming from old-style distro is expecting to find it.
But no, we develop new tools.

I did look at it, but not long enough, so I agree some of the config items are there, but far from all of them (nfs, services), or are they hidden so well???

Feel free to suggest what and where.
Thanks.

I like the idea, it is similar to what EndeavourOS uses for their welcome screen.

One suggestion it to copy their ability to add personal commands.

That way if a user is looking for something they don’t see, they can add it themselves. If it is something you see a lot of requests for, “where is X” you could add it in there.

What are you trying to achieve with those settings? Or, are you just wanting it to be the same as the other distros were? You are talking about a lot of problems without discussing what the goals or expectations are.

I was lead to OpenMandriva when searching for bugzilla 5.2 (problem in another thread). As I have come from Mandrake, Mandriva, Mageia I was considering whether OpenMandriva could be a worthy alternative. In Mageia I make extensive use of many configuration options in the Control Center (like setting up nfs-server and clients) and I don’t find those in OpenMandriva. But you (well, a group of developers?) are replacing more or less this Control Center with the OpenMandriva Welcome (looks like that for me), but that is a work in progress?
So I am interested how OpenMandriva will evolve. I like to have a fallback just in case …

OpenMandriva is not
well, put what you want here.

Again, feel free to provide your patch or submit a PR.

We may have the same heritage as Mageia, but we do not make the same decisions they do. Likewise with every other derivative and on all sides. OM is an independent distribution which means decisions are made without their approval. Every other distro is a copy in some way of another and OM is trying not to be like that.

There is always a way to set things up when there isn’t a GUI way to do it, including file sharing. Though, I would recommend SSHFS over NFS for a number of reasons. Security, being the foremost one. As long as you have openssh installed on the device with the files on it, you can connect through a file manager for what that is worth. I frequently do that to watch videos stored on my test machine. No further configuration is needed other than a user account and correct permissions.

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They who? :grin:

They, Mageia and every other distro lol
Silly.

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Agreed

Why people who migrated from one distro to the other, complain about that the distro they migrated to is not like distro they migrated from. It make no sense.

I can sit here and write for hour or two , how Open Mandriva is different then slackware and debian. I can talk about how “weird” some things are. But what’s the point??

I changed distro by my own free will.

Of course things will be handled differently then on my previous distro, of course It will be felt weird sometimes.

That is normal thing.
If something is broken I will file report, or solution to the issue if I fix it but,
I completely see no reason for complaining about perfectly working system, just because it works bit different then the other distro.

There is simple solution to this kind of problems.

  1. Lean the ways of particular distro.

  2. Change it to something that fits your:
    a. needs
    b.workflow
    c.install something minimal and build your work environment your self

Does OM needs improvements? Yes. Every distro does.
Should it mirror what other distros does. Nope.

Hey Guys. I know im just a new guy here. Im a user from a “Landuke wave”,
but guys if something ain’t broken do not fix it.

I’m really trying hard to find the area where OM is lacking gravely, to send mile long log with some chunk of errors that i found but… I can’t. Because things I use and things I do works.
In some cases better then on Debian.
F it. I’ve sed it. I Debian cultist!
As far as to the date of me witting this post. All my problems are user not system related

Ok here you got one - dnf sucks. Oh wait… Right It is another user related issue! :laughing:

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I came here not looking to distro hop, but to find a new home. I started using SuSE 9.0 but I couldn’t tell you what year that was off the top of my head. I am not welcome there any more. Even Lunduke got banned and he was on the board of directors.

I am no expert on DNF. It will come with time. I only have OpenMandriva running on the kitchen PC so far. My new PC is on the dining room table waiting for the case that they keep saying, “Bad weather. It will get there tomorrow.” I really want to get it loaded here at my desk.

Like you, my first impressions are very good. I will know more soon.

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Welcome home.

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Of course OpenMandriva is different, other wise it would not make sense to maintain a separate distro.
And you can have good reasons to dith the Control Center, no discussion, but ditching some of its functionality is another matter. And I don’t know your planning, so I’ll be eager to follow on.
And yes, I know SSHFS, but again it is not the same as NFS, it lacks the possiblilty of giving access to a restricted set of folders without meddling with the r/w options in the serving side. I use NFS only in my LAN, not to the outside world.
I would like to stop this discussion here. I see for the moment no compelling reason to switch to OpenMandriva, but I will keep an eye open, it is interesting enough.

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