Thanks, seems clipboard history got re-enabled or I didn’t apply the change the first time, so that may explain why it was still acting up.
I think it just got fixed here yesterday, and you should see the change on this next update.
I recently installed Rome. (Lunduke sent me)
I’ve used most major distros and desktops since first installing Slackware in 1993.
I tried to enable the desktop cube, but it wasn’t happening. A quick search here revealed that I had to install qt6-qtquick3d-examples, which solved the problem.
Then the tailscale install failed. Again, I found a helpful post here that provided a workaround. (there’s some sort of issue with the pgp keys, tailscale is working on it)
Finally, I wanted to try a little 3D FPS gaming, so I said “dnf install openarena” which wasn’t found. And then I discovered om-repo-picker, and added all the repos.
Problem solved.
So basically, I ran into issues and each issue has been solved without too much effort.
It’s pretty, and works well, and for a rolling distro it’s very stable.
Guess I’ll wage in here. I moved to OM Rock back in Jan. The biggest hurdle for me was KDE, BUT a little patience and all of my particulars about how I wanted my DE to just get out of the way happened.
I see that most people are on Rome or Cooker. I understand why this would seem appealing for many given the long refresh cycles of other distros, Rock as well. BUT I personally value stability and compatibility over everything else in the Linux world. Rock provides this in spades. And with Flatpaks this refresh issue is nonstarter. I can have my stability and my cutting edge all at the same time.
Very very happy with that.
Speaking on compatibility, I have to give Rock and extra special high five because of how it handles a UMPC prototype I’ve been working on very well! It is a unique setup and one that Windows choked on occasionally. Rock does what it is supposed to and that is the best thing I can say about any distro.
My house is slowing being converted to OM. I’m tallying up on all the computers making the switch and will be donating again. Good software MUST be supported financially.
When I have got a bit more time and cut my teeth a bit more, I will be trying to contribute some development efforts here as well!
First, my daily driver is (are you sitting down?) XP64. That is my preferred way of working and I can measure uptimes in years.
I’d messed with linux off and on all the way back to Red Hat 6 and Mandrake 7.2, but hadn’t found one solid enough for everyday (and early on learned to loathe Ubuntu). But Win10 gave me a burning urge to reach through my monitor and force-choke a UI developer, and that’s when I went seriously hunting a distro I could love. Soon found I preferred KDE, and that all the distros I gave a second look were Mandrake descendants. Also discovered that Plasma’s performance depends entirely on the distro under it; some are slick, others sloggy. That narrowed the field considerably.
One of the distros I liked was OM, but at the time it was still pretty rough around the edges. I ended up settling on PCLinuxOS (which also gave me a preference for rolling), and I love it. But it’s essentially a one-man-band, so figured I needed a more mainstream distro as a backup, and that’s why I also have a Fedora install. Fedora’s performance is nowhere near as good as PCLOS, but both have been absolutely solid. The only real problem I’ve ever had seems to be a hole in the AMD GPU driver (apparently one type of Dell OEM GPU is not supported, which caused rummaging in the parts bin for a different vidcard).
So like half the internet, I saw the Lunduke vid and was reminded OM exists. Woah, it has really come a long way since last I tried it. Now all of KDE (that I use, anyway) works, and it lets me set up my desktop how I want. Performance is still excellent. This will make a nice backup OS, and maybe eventually a primary OS. Some thrashing around with regard to updates/app installs (grumbling exiled to another thread) and I’m not yet to where I trust OM for everyday, but I intend to keep it in my stack of useful OS drives (I use a hotswap bay, I don’t multiboot).
And most promising for OM’s future, no screeching about [insert forbidden topic here]. That noise you hear is projects committing seppuku.
I came over from Arch and GNOME. Experience has been largely positive, the Mandriva package naming differences from Redhat and fewer metapackages/groups tripped me up a couple of times, but nothing major.
I had to look up XP64. That is some dedication that you have. I missed most of the XP era as my windows machine was running W2K Pro for as long as I could.
I’m fairly certain that I started out on Red Hat 5.1 and when I tried Mandrake I don’t think it was till around 8.0 or so.
They’re not much different, and it runs on a midrange i7. I have a W2k VM on my Win11 netbook, not enough horsepower to run a newer VM. And now there are people adapting modern software. I’m typing in Supermium (current Chrome for XP) and it’s actually become my preferred browser on modern Windows.
Here somewhere I have RH5 in the special edition box, but never tried it. Had enough trouble with RH6 (lordy it was slooooow). I did like Mandrake, but at the time it didn’t have enough functionality. After running away screaming from early Ubuntu, I think the next one I tried was Puppy, which I still use as a recovery boot disk.
just a minor correction, Arch without counting “testing” has 14757 packages . Also it packages differently, for example “all-things”-mesa is 1 package there.
I’m also not a new Linux user — switched to it 25yrs ago and went through many distros.
Thank you for explanation!
I’ve started my Linux journey with SUSE, then Gento, Arch…some Fedora, but generally stayed with Debian-based distros.
Never dug deeper into deb vs rpm, but I can say that I never prepared some *.deb package, but did a few rpms.
I’ve tried to migrate to OM (Lunduke journal), but had to revert to LMDE…for mostly two reasons:
- first tried ROME with Xfce, but I could not make my external display work (Tuxedo laptop connected via docking station) and had to try with KDE Plasma -AMD CPU version. However, despite honouring what KDE devs do, that DE is simply not for me. Cinnamon does work for me, and its clock applet even supports CalDAV calendars. I’d probably like to switch to Cosmic, no matter if it is still alpha, and they plan to add CalDAV support, but lack of AMD CPU version of Cosmic spin is the dealbreaker for now.
- After many years of using Claws as my preferred mail client, I mostly switched to neomutt+isync, and they are not available in the repos, while I didn’t have enough of free timer to provide them for myself.
There is also a need to use some prop. software (Viber, Zoom,…) but they can be probably made to run. Finally, there is 3rd party *.deb package for eID, but I was able to convert it into rpm via alien) on openSUSE TW, so hopefully it can be done for OM as well…not sure about availability of alien.
So, I hope/believe, I’ll be able to migrate to OM/Cosmic sooner than later.
I had a rough go of it this evening. My Pastor is out of town and had asked me to give the lesson this evening.
Normally I’d use Xiphos to search for usages of key words and to copy passages into my notes which I enter into LibreOffice. Xiphos isn’t available on OM as an RPM so I installed the flatpak. It doesn’t work as all I get it this and no window:
$ flatpak run org.xiphos.Xiphos
MESA: error: Failed to query drm device.
libEGL warning: egl: failed to create dri2 screen
libEGL warning: egl: failed to create dri2 screen
Since Bibletime is available as an RPM I turned to it. The search feature worked well, but the rest of the software was cumbersome to use and copying more than one verse at a time was painful. It also had some kind of bug where it wouldn’t copy the last verse so if I wanted verses 14-15 I’d have to tell it to copy 14-16. I’m not blaming OM for the Bibletime issues, it just wasn’t my cup of tea and I struggled to make it work and had low confidence and it wasn’t like I had another option available to me on short notice.
When my notes were ready I printed a single page document and my 4 pages of notes duplex. I glanced at the papers as I folded them and stuffed them into my Bible, nothing caught me eye. This evening as I finished my introduction I realized that the bottom half of the first page was blank, I flipped the page over and found naught but a single line of text printed upside side, page three was blank, and page four had the last half of the page, my conclusion. Panic set in, there was no way that I could remember all of my notes and references. Thankfully my dear wife was at home and saw my dire situation on the live stream and managed to locate LibreOffice, open my recent documents, and send me pictures of my notes. Not bad for a Mac user. The single page document that was not printed duplex came out perfectly.
To say that my confidence in OM is shaken is an understatement. I know, I know, submit bug reports.
What about to start new topics in Support category or submit bug reports (and leave your complaining comments here if you so wish with the relevant links) instead?
I doubt that a mess of random untrackable problems can be profitably addressed the way this discussion is evolving.
The topic is “How has OM been treating you” and it posted in the “Coffee break” section which you yourself labeled as “Free and open discussions.”
Is there somewhere else on this forum that users can freely discuss both positive and negative aspects of having been users of OM without getting a gentle course correction from a moderator?
Well, you are free to discuss it here, but don’t expect your questions to be answered in this thread. If you have issues, we are more than happy to help. It just won’t happen in Coffee Break. The posts don’t show up in the Cooker channel and will likely go overlooked.
I didn’t have any questions.
I know. I also know you are fully capable of filing a bug report.
which already seems a vague question title, but I’m not eager to argue.
So why you, among others btw, are posting technical details here which can get better discussed and solved in Support category?
Isn’t that implicit asking for help? If not what’s the point?
PS> Negative feedbacks help us to make the distro better and better, hence they are welcome.
As long as they are properly done with bug reports.
Differently, they just look like sterile complaints leading to nowhere but despise the distribution and the distribution contributors.
As one of the folks here that makes an effort to help users when I am able to do so:
If you simply want to discuss things this thread is a great place to do that. There is absolutely, positively, nothing wrong with users discussing things.
If you have a problem you need help with this is absolutely, positively, the wrong place to do that. Post in Support forum or file a bug report.
If I had a serious problem and first reported it in Support forum and I did not see some explanation or resolution in 3-7 days I would file a bug report in a heartbeat. Bug reports trump all for problem solving.
My purpose for this thread was to interact with the flood of other new users to OM to find out how well it was working for everyone. This is because I can’t seem to find useful reviews of Linux distributions. Take Ubuntu 25.04 which just released. Last night I was listening to shows on YouTube while doing some home remodeling and it autoplayed The Linux Experiment’s review of Ubuntu 25.04 and I learned nothing of substance. I would have skipped to a different video, but I believe my hands were covered in ABS glue at the time. This morning I found that DistroTube had posted a review. I quit at the 2:36 mark as all I had learned to that point is that during the install there is an area provided where you can test the keyboard out to see if you have it set up correctly before proceeding with the install. Many of these reviews are done on a virtual machine and any issues are dismissed as “It must be my fault”. Instead of such trash journalism I wanted to talk to people with real experiences. What better place for that than here? Of course some negatives are going to come up else what would be the point of the discussion? If a prerequisite to making a comment about a problem or a struggle was having first filed a but report or support forum ticket then free and open discussion would be severely curtailed. I’ve recently noticed that this forum has had some people come in, post negatively, recommend Arch, then bail out. This discussion is not that and I’m sorry that you have had to go through all of that.
Last night while mentally reviewing my experiences with OM over the past few months I realized a positive that I had not previously mentioned. On Pop_OS! I can’t leave Discord running. If I do then in an hour or two or day or two later I will find my computer screen black and the only means of recovery to press and hold the power button till the computer powers off. It has been like this for at least the past two years and no, I have not made a bug report. Seeing a pattern here? On OM Discord runs perfectly and I sometimes forget that it is still running several days later.
That seems like the usual product from TLE. Of the BooTubers, he’s probably more political and click-baity than most. He represents mostly the tech consumer and not the tech owner. I doubt very highly that he has every used his earnings or time to support a project for an application, let alone a distribution.
Running OMLx is going to have trade offs, just like running any other distribution. This is the most difficult thing to convey to people and the main reason why management defends it so heavily. OMLx has flaws (which we try to address in a reasonable amount of time) because it is created by passionate people with the goal of building something they, and others can benefit from. It also has added benefits that allow us to keep OMLx ahead of the curve when it comes to the versions of software shipped.
We are also particular about things working, which is why Rock is taking so long. The core of the system has to work, and protect user freedoms. While we all may have different opinions and tastes when it comes to Display Managers, Graphics Servers, and Desktop Environments, the foundation needs to be there and give the user the path to owning their computing experience and the flexibility to change things while also learning from us how to achieve that. No other distribution offers that. You will spend months going through thread rabbit holes trying to find answers to problems with more widely used distributions, and you will spend even more time if you try to open an issue in their bug tracker. Here, you just ask someone in one of our communication channels. If you ever went to a LUG (Linux Users Group) they used to have Install Fests once a month where everyone brought in their PC’s to get Linux installed or address a hardware or software issue. Our support process is very similar.