And this is using all my monitors. Still on the live USB boot. Just plugged them in and setup the priority.
Not bad. But now for real zZzZzZZZzZzZZ!
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I realize others have already given you the help and the criticism about this post, so I’m just going to make some other things clear to you (and others).
The Association and the distribution are solely run and maintained by volunteers. We are not doing this as a full time, paid job. Which means, many of us have to participate in a primary method of getting income so basic needs can be met. As a result, there will be hiccups with the infrastructure and the end product from time to time. Patience should probably be the first thing you bring to a new interaction with people you want to provide you with something you use in your daily life without providing them with compensation.
You are not the first person to come here with criticisms, but you are also not the first one to come here with an ungrateful attitude. To that I say, if you would prefer a better out of box experience that uses rpm’s, then use Fedora. We don’t make Fedora money, and we don’t base our distro on theirs, or Debuntu, or any other push button distribution.
The purpose of what we do is to help people use, learn about, and enjoy Free (as in freedom) software. It sounds like you are just more interested in something that isn’t doing what Microsoft is doing but lets you do everything you can do in Windows. Maybe watch another YT video (probably Chris Titus Tech) about how to debloat Win11 and disable all the stuff you are concerned about. We are busy trying to create something that (yes) people actually want to use.
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Point taken. But… I was not ungrateful, I offered to help and provided suggestions to improve downloading and testing the distro.
If you want to stay in your corner and dabble with the freedom distro of your making, you should ask Lunduke to take OM off his list. Not tell me to stay on an OS I have never installed and never will.
My frustration came from not even being able to test it. I think there’s Something great happening here. A great distro with great attitude. But a product nevertheless. If it shouldn’t be distributed in a bigger sense, then lock it up and make it exclusive.
Again, I admitted my errors and offered to help. But, I am not some 18 year old dude that has time to waste and masturbates all day long, because some religion forbids me to date women before marriage.
But I see this over and over in “open” and “inclusive” communities alike. There are the ones that like to talk about a project and others that want to get it done
This is a bottleneck for prosperous development. And your freedom seems to me as ideological as wokness.
OM is a product and it’s been advertised to millions of potential users. But if it’s meant to be for a small elite that enjoys freedom, as in solitude, I can go away again.
What is really Frustrating is to spend a lot of time on documentation (well of course nobody and nothing is perfect, everything can be improved) and people who wish to approach to something definitely new to them don’t bother to read, even if the solution is just under their eyes.
We wrote the Newcomers’ tips, put it in a banner and pinned it so that it’s the first thing you can see entering the forum.
It provides most of what a newcomer needs to know for the starting.
Its content is also updated as soon as we realize that something may be missed (see above about the perfection).
We are nice and tolerant towards newcomers, often answering again and again to the same questions even when to be honest I personally am tempted to just reply “RTFM”..
Nonetheless sometimes we feel their attitude a bit disrespectful.
I’d suggest to open the full page, for your better convenience, and carefully read everything.
Then if you have any further doubt not yet covered feel free to ask as we are here to help.
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You probably should not pile on the criticism when you cannot take a mild amount of clarification and criticism in return. Children learn about that concept well before they are 18. I understand you find a lot of things on the Internet to be upset about, but we are not here for you to cope with that. Especially at the expense of your disappointment with our “product.”
It’s as simple as this. We make a distribution that we consent to let you use either at no cost, or for whatever cost you think is reasonable based on your concept of value. As I already stated and you failed to acknowledge at all, the rest is supplemented by volunteering of time, knowledge, and resources. No one here is forcing you to use it. That’s about as free as you are going to get, and that isn’t ideological.
Outside of that, if you want to help make it better then do the work. If you don’t know how to do the work, then ask. If you need help with something, ask. If you are not interested in any of that, then you are free to move on to another distro, or none at all. We are not other distros, and we are not going to be other distros.
I understand your frustration. I’ve been around here since April, and I had some difficulties in the beginning too. It’s worth fighting through them, though, and the community here is top notch. There are definitely improvements that could be made to the new user experience.
Your feedback on the website is spot-on, and has been shared by other newcomers as well. There wasn’t any attempt to make things difficult for people, but I think what others are getting at is with a small, thinly-stretched team, there isn’t a lot of time to put in the polish that’s necessary. It sounds like you have a lot of experience with designing websites and visual flows. That experience would certainly be helpful to this small team.
Since you’re still just testing OM, I get that all you can do right now is provide feedback on your experience. Hopefully, once you’ve proven that it’ll work for you, you’ll be able to be more involved. Keep us posted on your progress; and let us know if you run into any issues!
I still use XP64 as my daily driver, so I know where you’re coming from. But you can disable all that junk, even in Win11. Local account only, all the Cortana and AI crap either neutered or gone, copy over old versions of Notepad or whatever else and it runs just fine. (And I still use some very old software, even on Win11. The oldest in regular use is from 2001.)
“CyberCPU Tech” (among others) on Youtube has several videos, one this past week, on how to bypass all the Microslop and have a nice clean Win11 install. And there are tools for tweaking and disabling the garbage; my favorite is Winaero Tweaker (it can even entirely disable updates). Also BlackViper’s services list (Windows services you can safely disable) for Win10 is still pretty much valid for Win11.
On linux I like KDE as my desktop, and the distro under it needs to be full-featured and have good performance and stability. I’m not sure OM’s update system is quite there yet, but the rest of it has become quite good (in my experience it is one of the two best performing full-featured distros). But jumping over as a graphics professional is probably the hardest transition to make, no matter how good the linux distro is at supporting the precision you need – it’s not like office software where there are a lot of good-enough substitutes for whatever one used on Windows. (My preferred graphics package is CorelDraw, so if you think you have trouble with muscle memory…..)
Yeah, multiple monitors still seems to be an arcane art, and the one time I tried it on linux I had a WTF experience, until I figured out that KDE had to be told which one was primary – it had assumed the larger monitor was primary, and that just produced a placeholder image. Much head-scratching ensued.
When you’re a professional and in particular a graphics specialist, I don’t think I’d recommend doing a drastic leap from Windows to linux, any linux. Rather, set up a secondary system and futz around with linux until you grow accustomed, and figure out what works for you on that platform. Cheap laptops are now abundant, and are good enough for the purpose. Or use the retired system in your closet. Better than tearing your hair out trying to make stuff work on the fly.
BTW, I am jealous of your monitor. Oh, what nice specs.
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for CorelDraw
I got my entire division addicted to that and Corel Ventura back in the day (when they all came on floppy 
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One of these days I’ll have to rescue my win7 machines into a vm just so I can use my corel tools and even some daz. ::sigh:: lots of fun stuff
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What’s a good tool for doing that? I have old OS installs I’d like to rescue so I can use this and that.
My first Ventura/CorelDraw was v5 (tho I have older ones collected since). PhotoPaint utterly ruined me for anything else, it’s so much easier for what I do.
Oh, to continue the previous raft of complaints, my Win11 netbook that did have a “Microsoft account” no longer does (because it misbehaved and decided it needed to out-of-box-experience me for no reason). It is now a Local Account. I can’t believe it actually let me just click a setting and restart, and there it was.