Honestly, Arch can say whatever they want on their website, but their actions are truly what matter.
I think most want to laugh off their actions and move forward with a better community. If Arch and Debian want to do that, more power to them. They are just going to push people away who want nothing to do with it.
Said Mr. Nobody who joined OpenMandriva few days ago and tries hard to become the monster he is fighting against with his pal Lunduke. What a sad outcome of OpenMandriva.
I donāt care what their code of conduct says. Their behavior is clear. Instead of stepping in and telling the discord to stop, or disavowing them, they scrubbed their forums of any reference to Lunduke. Face it, they approve of the behavior. I love Arch and this sucks, but stop defending them.
Arch forums donāt have a general chat category, all of the categories are technical in nature. Deleting posts that have nothing to do with the technical aspects of Arch makes sense. Until Arch comes out with an official statement calling me rotten flesh, I wonāt be too worried about this. Iāll still run Arch on my gaming pc because it is a hassle to get all of my windows games setup the way I like again, and Iāll keep running OMLx on my laptop and home server.
Edit: Apologies to Tuxcat for completely derailing this thread. I hope your laptop is still running well for you with OMLx.
Im 4 weeks in. I was Debian guy for more then 10 years. Yup I sometimes check some other distros for fun but Im alwaays back to debianā¦ But, Im on stable OM Rock. And it light years ahead of debian. It is better in every aspect. Imagine my shock.
Yes, but they deleted threads from years ago. Literally any mention of him. Heās been a tech journalist since 2006 and was on the board of OpenSUSE at one point. His name has been out there for a long time. Iām sure heās been discussed on those forums many times in the past.
I am interest to hear how much OM is better than Debian coming from a long time Debian user. I know I am liking it, and I feel like Iād recommend it to most people already.
No apology required! Quite the oppositeāI am entertained. I find open disagreement refreshing. Itās great to not have to walk on eggs all the time for fear of upsetting the perpetually offended. I came here for the unique & useful distro. Iām staying for the community.
While I believe the opinions exchanges done in a pleasant way are food for thoughts, I am a bit bored with how this thread has derailed.
Also not really happy, as this such of things usually come to not that funny outcomes, tricky to manage too.
One: āButā¦ butā¦ butā¦ā
The other: āButā¦ butā¦ butā¦ā
Rinse and repeat.
People each will stay with their own idea, there is no solution. Just motorboating.
Also, if you want to discuss Arch, which is not the point on the OpenMandriva forum, start a new thread.
However, it would really not be appropriate.
As for āArchā the base of many distros, Lunduke has substantial proof of them scrubbing the official forum after he showed what was going on in the āunofficialā discord group. There were mentions of Lunduke in the forum that have been completely scrubbed.
I agree completely - this is what I was posting on X in the Lunduke threads on this issue. I cannot stand this attitude that we have to remain silent about certain topics as it might āoffendā someone.
We treat adults like children and then we are shocked when we discuss complex topics that they act like spoiled children in response.
First of all, this would require a new thread, but okā¦ as long you are contiuining this.
You apart from Lunduke, those who canāt read and those who have malicious intentions to begin with, are also surprised? by what Archās CoC says and what the action of violating has been? I posted it previously but here it is again:
Controversy/controversial topics #
There is no explicit list of topics considered to be ātrollishā, controversial or provocative, but in the past, posts pertaining to Religion, Sports, Race, Nationalism and Politics have invariably been closed. Therefore, specifically avoid these and all divisive topics in the Arch community. The staff certainly realize that such issues are deeply ingrained human realities. However, this is a technical community and is not intended nor able to effectively facilitate such commentary nor the resulting unrest.
Iām not here to defend the āLunduke fanbois and trollsā (which is interesting language btw) but seriously - the question was not ātrollishā it was just asking for their official stance on the behavior going on within the āunofficialā Discord server.
They didnāt answer his question, they didnāt say, āDeath threats of any kind are not part of the Arch mantra / CoCā etc, they DELETED his question and BANNED HIM.
Was he being a ātrollā for asking this in the forum??