Specifically about snap and flatpak:
18:11:24 <AngryPenguin> bero: maybe this as new feature for 4.0: https://github.com/snapcore
18:11:26 <AngryPenguin> :D
18:12:51 <bero> I personally don't like that brokenbuntu crap at all... It's outright dangerous to duplicate copies of libraries with everything and all... But it might be necessary to install some upcoming non-free games or whatever. What do others think?
18:12:56 <crazy> AngryPenguin: please no .. stay away with this crap
18:13:33 <crazy> bero: why would you need it when you have everything you need ?
18:13:53 <crazy> bero: to run some crapbuntu ancient container as lib in OM ?
18:13:57 <crazy> cmon
18:14:18 <AngryPenguin> anyway flatpak is ready for lx4?
18:14:28 <crazy> there is no need for any of this crap including flatpaks
18:14:36 <crazy> hehe
18:14:38 <crazy> :D
18:14:40 <bero> crazy: The only reason why I could see it as being useful is to be able to run some new game or whatever that is released only as snap, flatpak or similar stuff
18:14:43 <crazy> no idea AngryPenguin
18:14:58 <bero> AngryPenguin: supposed to work, but I think that too is a really bad idea
18:15:12 <bero> It's essentially repeating everything that Microsoft got wrong
18:15:19 <bero> bundle every library with every application
18:15:31 <bero> so when a security bug in glibc shows up, you get to update 10000 packages instead of one
18:15:35 <crazy> bero: they should release a appimage or how is called .. same crap but you can chmod +x it it && ./run_it
18:15:45 <bero> and if one doesn't get the update, it remains affected
18:16:12 <bero> crazy: true