Society decays when we tolerate bad behavior. Society needs boundaries defining behavior that will not be tolerated, and those boundaries must be enforced.
If citizens don’t enforce those boundaries, either society decays, or someone else (here meaning the government) will come along and enforce it for them.
We have reached the point where there is enough decay (because we have tolerated so much bad behavior) that said enforcement is looming on the horizon.
Of course the average leftist-indoctrinated Microsoft, Apple, and Google user will just roll over and comply. That is what they always do. It is part of their indoctrination. Everyone else will need to be educated, which is an uphill battle. Education using facts is always more difficult than indoctrination using promises of a future of unicorns, pixie dust, rainbows, and more free stuff.
Remember the Covid DemPanic? When everyone had to wear a face diaper? Fully unenforcable, yet everyone complied. There never were enough police to enforce it. Until enough people started to figure out that it was just part of a scam to get everyone to take the poison shots, which did turn out to be a good way to take a fast dirt nap. I was one of the few who refused to comply. No shots for me. No face diaper when outside or in a grocery store. There were a few others like me who refused to comply. Every day we waited for Prickster to send in his thugs to round us up. Never happened. The worst that happened to me was a $100 fine because some soy-fed teen happened to see me outside in the parking lot and called the police. He made up some story about how I was going to shoot him with my twin 0.50 caliber automatic machine guns mounted under my pickup truck. The local keystone cops issued the fine for “disturbing the peace.” They couldn’t get me for possessing something that I clearly didn’t have. Especially after I told them to look under the truck. They never did ticket me for not wearing a face diaper because it was a violation of the U.S. Constitution. The government has no authority to tell me what I must wear.
Need another example? The Double Nickel. 55 MPH speed limit. 100% unenforcable. To the point where the federal government imposed arrest quotas on certain states, trying to force the states to enforce this insanity. What was the given reason? To save fuel! The fuel savings never happened because most people just ignored the speed limit unless you happened to live in the Northeast. Out in Montana, a state with no previous speed limit during the day, the state was forced to issue speeding tickets. $5 for each offense, no points. Everyone carried a $20 bill. When pulled over for speeding, you got a $5 ticket and three speeding ticket credits for the next three times. It showed that you were ticketed and paid. The state reported four speeding tickets to the feds, not one. Strange how that works, isn’t it? The feds never told Montana how much to charge for each ticket. Each state set their own fees and points.
In 1982 I was in North Dakota doing 65 in a 55. Flashing lights behind me. Flashing lights in front of me. He clearly didn’t want me. 20 miles down the road at the next town, there was the state patrol officer, at the convenience store, with his coffee and donuts. Real emergencies get priority over someone from out of state doing 10 over. California government isn’t going to be knocking down the doors of people not living in California. However, I would love to see them try in states such as Texas or Idaho.
Then there was the EPA forcing manufacturers to install catalytic converters that didn’t work. Anyone with tools quickly removed those defects and installed a piece of exhaust pipe, which instantly improved fuel economy. Muffler shops couldn’t do it. But they would sell you the pipe. If you had a farm tractor with a loader, you would remove the junk, stand it up on end, attach a smaller diameter pipe to the loader, and use the weight of the tractor to force the pipe through the converter, creating a clean hole. Work in a machine shop? All kinds of machine tools to make a big hole in that thing. Where there was a will, there was a way. Of course you vehicle became worthless for trade at a dealer. But back then most people either sold their used vehicles in the classifieds or ran them into the ground.
Bottom line. Once people are educated, there will be a revolt.
The public never did vote for Prohibition. The Constitution spells this out very clearly:
So as you can see, the public never did vote for it. The elites in Congress and the assorted state governments did the voting, under pressure from the assorted prohibition organizations who claimed to be the “majority.” They always remind me of the “Moral Majority” during Reagan’s two terms. As it turned out, they were neither moral nor a majority. Just extremely vocal. The prohibition pushers were the same. Most of them had no problem with themselves getting a drink or two, so long as nobody else seen them, while being very loud and obnoxious, destroying any private property that happened to offend them. Much like the terrorist mobs in Minnesota, California, Portland, Seattle, and other blue disaster zones.
What did Prohibition create besides binge drinkers? The speak easy and the supper club. I figure everyone knows what a speak easy is. But supper club, not everyone knows, unless you grew up around those places. Before Prohibition, the bar, restaurant, and alcohol manufacturers in Wisconsin had their own very powerful lobby and still do. Probably the most powerful lobby in the country at the time. In order to get Prohibition ratified by the state, the government had to make a deal by allowing for a loophole in the state. Private eating establishements could sell alcohol with meals, but only to “members.” So who is a member? Anyone who walks in and pays the membership fee and sits down to have a meal. So basically, a speak easy, but more respectable and in plain sight. Quite a few still exist.
Of course there are. Ending Prohibition didn’t end the ban of alcohol. It only returned control back to the states or local governments. Some sounties that were dry before Prohibition decided during Prohibition that this law was creating more problems that it solved. It is much easier to have county-regulated liquor stores than to have a police state where everyone is suspicious of everyone else.
In some states that is true. In other parts, false.
If Prohibition accomplished anything, it created an entire generation or four of binge drinking alcoholics. Something many people don’t realize today because those generations are long gone and for the most part, the evidence was not recorded.
It has nothing to do with “safety” or “protecting the children.” It has everything to do with installing totalitarian control over everything.
I don’t see how California is able to enforce this very poorly thought out law outside of California, short of combined Gestapo and SS tactics. At least among anyone who refuses to use Apple/Google/Microsoft and dumps Fedora, System76, Ubuntu, or any other distro that decides to roll over and play dead because it was told to. Plus, as pointed out, OpenMandriva is based in France. Good luck with trying to enforce California law on a product based in France. It didn’t work for the prosecution in the Kyle Rittenhouse case when the prosecutor tried to use Illinois gun control laws in Wisconsin.
The 2024 election gives me hope. In 2021, everyone thought President Trump was finished. There was no way he was ever coming back, at least if completely brainwashed and a believer of the Fake News. But then enough people made enough noise about the voter fraud, creating enough pissed off people, many who never voted before, to go out and vote in person and overwhelm the election fraud. Now people are demanding some must be done about this. I have a screwball neighbor who to this day insists that President Trump cheated in 2016 and 2024, despite having zero evidence.
You are never going to wake up everybody. But it is possible to wake up enough people.
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I don’t see how California is able to enforce this very poorly thought out law outside of California
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I believe the feds are also considering similar things.
Perhaps, when someone disputes this, SCOTUS will put the kibosh on this BS.
Digitally all will go to shit. Thats only a first step (at this stage)
Indeed they are - as
he says here, we are rapidly headed toward Agenda 2030 and digital tyranny. This may be our last stand before all of us who refuse their digital ID and biometric BS are perma banned from the public internet.
.onion and TOR sites may come to our rescue, as will some other tech, like I2PD.
I know, TOR is compromised, but millions or billions using it will be very hard to keep tabs on all the same.
It’s an arms race.
Agree - but for those curious about I2PD:
Half of the Tor nodes are controlled by various governmental agencies. On top of that, if you choose to become a network node, you are basically agreeing to become a data hub for everyone. In short, you will become the last known traceable IP address. So, if a Piza CP enthusiast sends his collection of ‘videos’ to another creep, they are both safe. Your ass will be busted. Here goes the “fun part”, you will be completely defenceless in court with all these interesting data scraps and full data files on your drive (which you never downloaded in a first place).
You’d better prepare daily dose some bananas with thick vains to a rest of your life. (Short life)
Being a node is dangerous. Therefore, private nodes are rare. This takes us back to the first sentence of this post.
Fighting is not without risk.
I agree; I was just pointing out the dangers. If I wanted to set up a Tor node, I would do it in a way that makes it difficult for the authorities to track me as a person. I would pay for a VPS with money, not a credit card or bank transfer, and I would use simple web hosting maby. ARM microcomputer plugged into a network that I have access to, but which is not owned by a physical person is also an option. Everything except creating a node at my house with my name on it.
I wonder how this works. I must read about it more.
P.S. My English is terrible. I read what I wrote! WTF! Anyone who can decipher this shit deserves a Nobel Prize!
In my opinion, mutually satisfactory conflict resolution is always preferable to zero-sum game domination schemes.
Power is a zero sum game. If you give one group more, that necessitates another having less. It is NOT the same as wealth.
The other thing I’ve been contemplating is setting up a personal network with downloaded sites that have useful information. It wouldn’t have external access, or maybe just a few people you REALLY trust.
I only say the right things, in order to rat you out.
Prove me wrong.
Yes…
…the quest for power /advantage is irrelevant in the absence of the need for power.
Sure. And if pigs could fly, I’d have a flying chariot, and if I had some ham, I could have a ham sandwich, if I had some bread.
Let me guess…you like pot?
Yeah.
Thank you for the information.
As in formal logic problems and geometry proofs, essential information in the form of (possibly hidden) root assumptions dictate both the format of the process as well as the inevitable outcome.
Logic, whether in the form of verbal analysis or geometric method, shares and adheres to one underlying principal, namely, that logical analysis methodology is inherently fundamentally incapable of proving or disproving the initial premises accepted as given, which must necessarily remain outside the scope of analytic methods.
What is presumed as the conditional basis of setting up the scenario cannot be determined to be true or false through subsequent application of analytic method.
That being the case, to theoretically / hypothetically presume the validity of the premise (e.g., in the antecedent “prove me wrong” example) would by definition inherently predispose variables contrary to the presumed intended resolution, casting the subsequent activity in an antithetical contradictory nonsequitur.
“You cannot simultaneously prevent and prepare for war.”… Einstein
(As the saying goes, “Looks like it, smells like it, tastes like it… sure glad we didn’t step in it.”)
